there has been a longstanding issue in the patriot community, which some have called "the botany problem"...mostly composed of Fruits, Nuts, or Plants. sometimes, the three are hard to tell apart. not that it matters much, you don't want any of them in your group.
the easiest way to tell a plant is the guy who wants things to get "active" and has ideas that, on the surface, are borderline legal but if viewed in the wrong light will look really, really bad. or they outright want the shooting to start and are perfectly happy to help...so long as someone else goes first.
ANYONE WHO WANTS A WAR IS A BOTANY PROBLEM. they're either crazy or want a reason to get someone thrown in jail.
there are people online who openly beg people to "get the party started". I don't need to name them. I'm sure you've heard them.
one person you may not have heard of is Hal Turner. he was part of a government program to place people in the white supremacy movement, teach them how to go to the edge of the law but not cross it, then help the FBI bust people who crossed it. funny thing is, we seem to treat him and his training as though it were an anomaly, and one-off and they never did it before him or after him, or to any other movements..
let's face facts people..the government doesn't come up with a PROGRAM for this sort of thing for ONE GUY. not when it gives them the arrests they need to justify the budget. otherwise, why call it a "program" at all?
take a close look at who you're letting lead you. do they lead you up to the edge of something, only to suddenly stop and let you carry on? do they feed you just the information you need to draw the conclusion they want you to come to, or do they give you all the facts? do they demand you accept the intel they give you, and get offended when you dig on your own or find anything contrary to what they give? do they seem to magically have access to equipment that is just too good or too plentiful for the day job they say they have? do they have WAY too much interest in getting people's contact information to the point of DEMANDING it? do they sell or give things that are somehow branded or identifiable when low profile is more appropriate? do they have a background that would deny them legal access to firearms, yet they seem to have no issues with being on camera with firearms? and when those pictures/videos are posted online nothing ever seems to come of it? do they somehow want to isolate the group from the general population even after reviewing the tactics of past sieges and how static defenses DON'T WORK they just give the other side plenty of time to build up and get you? are they VERY quick to call someone else a plant/saboteur/FBI agent?
we are being led in circles, the same way you get a stampeding herd of cows to go in circles to tire them out (at least, that's what they did in the movies). this is why we don't win. this is why the militia/patriot movements before us and the 912/TEA party movements now, remain marginalized.
it's on purpose. and we're partly to blame.
"when experience is not retained, as among savages, infancy is perpetual. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana, The Life Of Reason, 1905
each time we make the same mistakes....and each time a new set of people step up to lead, not knowing what has come before them. sometimes not even knowing that something even came before them, as though they are pioneers in a land long explored and mapped but only recently forgotten.
"Who sees further a dwarf or a giant? Surely a giant for his eyes are
situated at a higher level than those of the dwarf. But if the dwarf is
placed on the shoulders of the giant who sees further? ... So too we are
dwarfs astride the shoulders of giants. We master their wisdom and move
beyond it. Due to their wisdom we grow wise and are able to say all
that we say, but not because we are greater than they." Isaiah di Trani ben Mal