(sent to glenn yesterday. my guess is that it will be ignored. but it is important and I thought I should share it.)
mcveigh was definitely NOT a constitutionalist. no matter what he said he was. have your researchers look into the links between him and Elohim City Oklahoma..a "christian identity"/nazi settlement. he spent a few weeks there before heading to oklahoma city.
the only "constitutional" group he attended he was thrown out. bodily. like, 5 guys grabbed him and he caught some air as he went out the door. he wanted to blow stuff up and no one wanted anything to do with him..they knew he was a "fruit or a plant" (a crazy person, or a spy sent by or employed by the FBI or ATF) and no group worth a damn wants either.
the "huttaree milita" you have been talking about does not fit the definition of "militia" as anyone else knows it. they were a private religious-based paramilitary group. you had to have a certain set of religious beliefs to belong. the militia is not a religious organization beyond the religions of the communities they represent. the militia, in it's truest form IS the community itself. any group calling itself a "militia" that is not part of the community is misnamed.
this sort of misnaming happens because the word "militia" has been sensationalized. suddenly everyone who wants to sound more "bad" adds the word "militia" to the name of their group. it's sort of like the words "liberation front" from the '60's.
militias are not anti-police...we treat them like every other government official. when they are within the boundaries set by the constitution, we have no problem. when they step outside those boundaries, we have a problem. again, the same as any other government official. and this is not a problem we solve with force unless force is brought to us first. we reserve the God-given right, enumerated under the 1st amendment, to call a jack-booted thug a jack-booted thug. we understand that police are more likely to be our allies than enemies, and they are human and make mistakes or get bad training/advice. we would like to see them get the opportunity to correct those mistakes, but they don't get to wipe thier boots on the constitution or bill of rights just because they are somehow a special class of citizen.
oh and glenn...you should define the moment that George Washington decided to use violence against what was then the recognized government of the american colonies. was he anti-government? a terrorist? if we had LOST the revolution you can be sure he would have been defined as both.
there IS a point where you have been backed against a wall. where all your other options have been removed. where nonviolence brings one of two things..slavery or death.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves. " Sir Winston Churchill.
I will not live as a slave. I will not fire the first shot. I will not start a fight. but when a fight is brought to me, I will follow god's law.
Habah l'hargecha hashkem l'hargo -- "If someone is coming to kill you, rise against him and kill him first. However, it should never be done with glee." the Talmud
Allen Tanner
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